![]() ![]() Those seem to be more expressive than not to be taken literally. ![]() This kind of contradicts the notion that Beyonder was only a finite times greater than a Multiverse whether it was a thousands, Millions or Septillion Sextillion, but Infinite. So when we hear that Beyonder was an Ocean, he was really an Infinite Ocean, to a Droplet of Water. This scan repeatedly calls the Beyond Realm as ENDLESSNESS, INFINITY, INFINITE BEYOND, and beyond all Existence. Or that Beyonder was just a finite number greater, it is contradicted based on some interpretation, analysis and other pointers I'll also mention that the Beyondrealm is NOT finite. I want to see if Pre-Retcon Beyonder's category can actually last that long. Now before you just reply LOL BEYONDER STOMPS, take note that Marvel's Multiverse got more complex since Beyonder was retconned, later portrayals of Eternity, Living Tribunal got better feats since their SW selves and before that and Beyonder cannot scale to those newer feats from which he was already retconned at the time. Don't use "BEYONDER IS OUTERVERSAL OR 1A!!" or whatever VSBattles arguments that make zero sense.Take note that each member of the Ultimate Ultimates are each OMNIVERSAL EMBODIMENTS, so basically Marvel has like, EIGHT OMNIVERSES if that even makes sense. The other side, we have First Firmament and 6 or 8 other walking Omniverses and the Beyonders. Space David Hasselhoff (Beyonder) takes on Marvel's New Multiversal Power Houses that were not around during the Pre-Retcon Secret Wars I and II. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon Feats, Secret Wars and 1984 and pre-1984 Scaling only) Ivory Kings, First Firmament + Ultimate Ultimates
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